Another big name who has already listened to The Life of a Showgirl? Travis Kelce, of course. When Taylor Swift went on his and Jason Kelce’s New Heights podcast, the guy on the Chiefs reported that he’s heard all 12 songs, and “ they are all 12 bangers .”

The singer’s twelfth album is being teased as a pivot back to pop bangers. On Popcast, we break down why (and why she announced it the way she did).

Her interview on “New Heights” was a revealing look at how Swift thinks about business and art. It’s been a week for Taylor Swift. First, she announced that her next album, Life of a Showgirl, is coming in October.